I'm such a loser, I couldn't wait and so I POAS on Friday (5dp5dt)- BFN, and this morning (7dp5dt)- BFN again. I'm losing hope and my heart is breaking again. I got our final embryology report and it wasn't good. Of the 8 embryos we had left on Day 5, none (0) made it to freeze. I'm devestated and just speechless. I don't understand. How can they tell me that things looked so much better, our grades were better and then this happens. WTH is going on? I'm losing hope that this fresh cycle worked. I still have until Wednesday before my beta, but the odds aren't looking good. With my FET, I was getting a BFP 5 days before my beta and look how that turned out. I just don't really know how much more I can take. If we get bad news on Wed, then we are going to ask for a face to face with our RE, normally they just do phone consults. We need to talk to him and really figure out what's going on. I don't know if we need to go ahead and do pre-genetic testing on the embryos and not even waste doing a transfer unless they're ok. Only problem is our RE can do the testing in house, they would have to be sent somewhere. Also, it's going to be extra money. I just don't know. I know we'll go ahead and move forward with the FET, we have to, but after that I'm at a loss. We have 1 IVF left. I never thought we'd even get to number 2.
I think I've resigned myself that we don't want to use donor. I guess I just can't imagine having a child that I know is my husband's and some other woman's. I don't have anything at all against using donor, it's just not something I can do. If we went to donor eggs, that would mean we would be out of the shared-risk program and would have to pay for the donor cycle with the money we get back. How is someone else's eggs, probably someone my age or even a few years older, better? I hyperstimmed both times, got 17 eggs the first time and 20 eggs the second time. We've done genetic testing on both of us and I've done all the clotting disorders, and nothing, nothing, was wrong. So what is it? What's going on, why are they dying? Is the protocol that my RE's using causing damage to the eggs? Is there some kind of developmental issue that we just haven't uncovered?
I'm tired, my heart is breaking a little more with every cycle we do. I know that no matter what happens, I'll know we at least tried. I've told Rob to go ahead and get the information from his company on their adoption policy. I'm a planner and I'd rather get the information now than later.
I know what everyone is thinking; this cycle isn't even over and you're already talking about the next one and getting upset about the embryos that didn't make it. I guess I just don't have much to go on, but what's previously happened to me, and what has happened to others. Yes, I shouldn't compare, but it's in my nature. I won't be testing again until Wed before my beta. I want to be prepared for the phone call whether good or bad. I have to go into the lab that day in the morning, but I'll probably come home after lunch. I know no matter what the results are, I just won't be able to compose myself at school.
On another note I got more bad news on Friday. For the past few years, I've noticed that I have to turn up the volume on most things, higher than what other's use. My mom got hearing aids at a pretty young age, 45 for her first, 56 for her other ear. I went to an Audiologist and had a hearing test done. Based on the results, I've lost hearing in both of my ears, my R is worse. The doctor thinks it's degenerative and hereditary, so they recommended hearing aids. I cried when I got in my car. I feel like I'm falling apart, piece by piece. I know it isn't the end of the world, but considering hearing aids aren't covered by insurance, it's just one more expense we don't have the funds for.
What's next God? My ears are bad, my sinuses are bad, my eggs are bad, my thyroid is bad, my brain isn't that great when it comes to dealing with things, what's left? Are you done yet? I'm only one person. I consider myself to be a strong woman, but seriously what's next? Are you trying to tell me I'm not fit to carry a child, that I'm not fit to pass my genes on? Is that it? Are you trying to tell me that there's so much going on in my body that carrying a child just isn't possible? Is all of this just pushing us towards adoption? I don't know, all I know is that I'm drained from all this IF s**t.
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*hugs* I am so sorry. I am so sorry that you have gone through ivf and it's still not working for you. It just isn't fair. I'm also sorry about your ears. I sorta know how you feel. I have eye issues as well as stomach issues. It's like what more can we deal with? Why us? If all this crap is happening now what is going to happen when we are older? I'm sorry. Thinking of you.
ReplyDelete(((HUG))) I understand firsthand how you feel and have always lurched ahead in my thinking before others feel I need to, but I can't help it. I need a plan. Like you said, it's not over yet and I will keep my fingers crossed. I'm so sorry you didn't get any frosties from those 8 (been there) and it really shook me too. Sorry about your ears :-( I know what you mean, it's always one thing after another isn't it! My mum died of breast cancer and now I'm dealing with infertility, it's like 'Give me a break already!' Hang in there hon. xox
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry..I wish there was more that I could say..and I'm still having hope for this cycle for you..And don't apologize for thinking ahead (ie getting the adooption paperwork), after our last m/c, I had to move on, to plan, to figure out wth our next step was, I couldn't wallow in what was going on. Your entitled to deal w/things however you want to. I was going to say don't give up yet, but don't give up at all. You will me a mom, it's just a matter of how and when. You're in my thoughts!!
ReplyDeleteAw Melissa. I am so sorry. I know it doesn't help to say it, but that's all I know to say. ((((HUGS)))) Know that I pray for you all the time, and by name even. Not just that "help all the IF ladies...." No, I pray for YOU. I know sometimes it feels like no one is listening or that you can't take any more. You are not alone. Much love.
ReplyDeleteMelissa, I'm so sorry about this. I'm not going to give you the whole "it's still early" speech because you know that. But it still sucks that you're getting BFNs. And I'm so sorry about your embryos not making it to freeze. That's just such a tough blow after all you've been through. You've really been dealt a tough hand over the past few years, but I hope that just means you have lots and lots of good things in store for you. God knows you deserve it.
ReplyDeleteCrap, I'm so sorry Melissa. Man when it rains, it pours, huh? I'm not even really sure where to start. This just sucks. And I can relate to the hearing loss thing - it almost feels like any other medical issues that come up just compound the heartache of IF, ya know?
ReplyDeleteSending you hugs, hugs and more hugs.
:( I'm speechless too Melissa. Ugh, I can't imagine what you are feeling. Maybe it's time for a second opinion? Take care, you'll be in my thoughts.
ReplyDeleteOh, darling Melissa, I just don't know where to begin. All I would like to do is give you an IRL hug. It feels like so many overwhelming thoughts and feelings. The news from the hearing doctor could not be a worse time for you and it is not easy news all on its own. And I would imagine it difficult not to be thinking of the other options when you have bad feelings about this cycle. And I can relate to your feelings about donor eggs, while being respectful of other people's choices. You and Rob have to do what is best for you, both of you. It is physical and emotional decision. You have two more days until Wednesday and I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. If it becomes too much, take it one moment at a time. Try to focus on something positive, as difficult as that can be.
ReplyDeleteHi Melissa, You don't know me but I came across your blog because me and my husband are trying to conceive as well. We had one cycle of mini IVF done in July/Aug 2010 and it was a BFN. I was very disappointed and upset as well but Praise God not for too long. Too encourage you the Bible says that the thief comes to kill, steal and destroy John 10:10 not God. Even though things are not looking good at this time, don't loose heart and faith in God. He's your creator and He made you perfect. He told us to be fruitful and multiply and the body needs to get aligned with God's Word no matter what. Babies was His idea and I believe that you will have children w/ God's help. What really helps me is reading and staying on God's Word. Don't give up that's the easiest way out of life's problems. May God bless you and fulfill the desires of your heart, may He strengthen you. Have Faith in God. Blessings
ReplyDeleteP.S a book that really helps me to be encouraged and stay on God's promises is called " Supernatural Childbirths" by Jackie Mize. I recommend you read it.
Melissa - I've been lurking for a while but haven't commented before now. I have absolutely no wisdom to share, but just want to tell you that I've felt that way too - that things get heaped on us when we're so emotionally incapable of handling them. IF alone is more than enough for one person to bear, it's isolating and stressful and incapacitating, and then more stuff happens. I can't say that I've risen to the occasion or handled any of it well AT ALL. Just want to tell you that you're not alone, but you are in my heart today. If I knew you IRL I'd give you a too-tight hug :)
ReplyDeleteHUGS Melissa. I've been thinking about you lots and praying for you and those embryos. I hope you are doing okay today and will be doing okay tomorrow, too.
ReplyDelete((HUGS)) Thinking about you!
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I can't even begin to imagine all the emotions and feelings that are going through your head and in your heart right now. You have had so many things happen in the last few years and WOW it sucks (that word doesn't even really do it justice). I don't understand why some people can fly through life seemingly untouched, yet others have to endure so much crap. It's not fair. It just isn't. I love you girl, and you are frequently in my thoughts. Big hugs to you. Thank you for being so honest with yourself and with us, and opening up your heart to let us know how you are feeling and what you are going through. Much love to you, dear friend.
ReplyDeleteThis is all so hard. I'm sorry you're going thru it. I too did IVF at 27 (3 yrs ago), and was told we'd made 3 perfect embryos--doctor put them all in (we had no extra to freeze), and I was sure I'd be pregnant, probably with multiples, but none of them stayed. I just couldn't comprehend where they could have gone, why if they were good quality and my uterus was ready for them they wouldn't have stuck. None of it makes any sense. I hope you still get good news this cycle. I know it's hard to keep believing after all this suffering, but it will work out in time--and hopefully very soon!
ReplyDeleteHaving just survived a hideous IVF#2 I can relate to what you are going through. I am sending you strength to endure and will hold onto hope fo ryou as your hope fades. Wishing you the VERY best of luck with your Beta!
ReplyDeleteHere from LFCA. I'm so sorry that none of your embryos made it to freeze and that you're getting bfns from your tests. I was exactly the same as you- I always had to be thinking about the next cycle, even while in the middle of one. I think I needed to know that there was a plan for the future to help me cope with the awful uncertainty of the present.
ReplyDeleteI hope your tests were just too early and you get good news from your beta. If not, I hope you can have a productive meeting with your RE and he can give you some answers.
Turia.
Here from LCFA. Have they done a Flow Cytometry test (related to immunological response) along with your clotting factor tests? My history is similar to yours. I too had a good response to drugs, made lots of embryos, and had an early loss after an IVF (actually w/donor eggs b/c I did go ahead with donor-- thought all my eggs were bad). After two failed IVFs, my doc, who had a background in immunology, had me tested by an immunology lab, and I came back negative for all clotting stuff but positive for alloimmune reactions to donor T cells and B cells. My body rejects foreign DNA (erm, sperm) in the same way one might reject an organ transplant. I got pregnant in a subsequent medicated IUI when I was put on a L.ovenox/baby aspirin protocol.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand all the hematological specifics, but if you e-mail me, I'm happy to forward you a copy of my test so that you can show your RE exactly what I was tested for and run the idea by him/her. Alloimmunity is very rarely diagnosed, but I'm not sure how rare it really is.
Oh, Melissa. I don't even know what to say. I'm so incredibly sorry about your embabies and your BFNs. This is so hard and so unfair. You have no idea how badly I wish I could give you a hug IRL. I'm thinking of you and sending lots of love.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry and I am sending you a big hug.
ReplyDeletei'm so sorry you're going through this. i'm about to start IVF #2 and i'm doing a bunch of extra testing and possibly embryo testing too. let me know if you have any questions. and i'l keep my FX for a miracle today.
ReplyDeleteI just had a failed IVF. It is devistating. It hurts and it's isolating. I pray that you will find strength in the IF community--all these great comments. Sending you lots of good vibes.
ReplyDelete~Elaine, lfca